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Preferred Transfer Market Period

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medal 5052
17 days ago Translate
The transfer market time being increased is a big negative for most managers. If you were short on time you could log in and have a good chance of winning a new pilot on and if you lose then you could have another chance in 4 minute. Now you have to be lucky enough to be active at the right time or have so much free time you are on iGP all day. If I go on at 10 minute past the hour to bid, I have to come back at the end of the hour to make sure I win. This is not fair to people who have jobs or little free time and can not do this.

The thing that worked best straight away with the last update was the transfers, but now it is just gearing the game towards players with so much extra time. It is a management game, and playing races more should give you an advantage over others. The admin stuff should not need to much time and commitment to be competitive. It is forcing players out of the game.

From reading about the new updates I understand that Jack wants to have a balance between casual players and hardcore players. The new league options clearly are for hardcore players, but the default things for every player should be aimed at the casual players. The transfer market lasting so long really goes against this. Could this please be changed back if the vote indicates people want it to be?

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medal 5052
15 days ago
It is very clear managers prefer the old system. There were no complaints about it before because it was one of the few areas of the game that worked really well. Now it is changed for no reason. There were whole hours yesterday when there was not a single 40 talent/100% talent driver on the market, which would not happen with a quicker refresh time. People are unhappy with many things in the game, mostly atrophy, but things which are fine and have no complaints about them are changed without asking managers and made worse. It was not broken, no one was asking for the change, no warning was given of the change, it has made things worse in the game. To keep managers playing and interested they need to have faith in the game and those behind it. It makes no sense that this was changed, so restore that faith and revert it.
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Should be 24 hours and a BUY NOW button (10 to 50 tokens)
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medal 5125
15 days ago
Personally can't think of anything worse than a 24 hour transfer period. It would massively slow the game down and lead to ridiculous prices. At an hour it is already about 8 tokens+ per auction, and that is mostly the people lucky enough/with the free time to be active at the end of the hour screwing over other people who are around earlier in the hour. The previous quick system was one of the best things about the game - after a very long time of the market not working it seemed to finally have been sorted and now it has been totally messed up again.
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Marco
Personally can't think of anything worse than a 24 hour transfer period. It would massively slow the game down and lead to ridiculous prices. At an hour it is already about 8 tokens+ per auction, and that is mostly the people lucky enough/with the free time to be active at the end of the hour screwing over other people who are around earlier in the hour. The previous quick system was one of the best things about the game - after a very long time of the market not working it seemed to finally have been sorted and now it has been totally messed up again.

I get your point about the 24 hour transfer period slowing things down, and I agree that timing advantages can be frustrating. But that’s exactly why a BUY NOW button could help.
If someone doesn’t want to wait for the auction to end or deal with last minute bidding wars, they could simply pay a fixed price (for example 10–50 tokens) and complete the transfer instantly.
That would actually speed up the market, not slow it down. People who want quick deals can use BUY NOW, while others who prefer auctions can still bid normally. It gives players flexibility instead of forcing everyone into the same system.


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medal 5125
15 days ago

Digital
I get your point about the 24 hour transfer period slowing things down, and I agree that timing advantages can be frustrating. But that’s exactly why a BUY NOW button could help.
If someone doesn’t want to wait for the auction to end or deal with last minute bidding wars, they could simply pay a fixed price (for example 10–50 tokens) and complete the transfer instantly.
That would actually speed up the market, not slow it down. People who want quick deals can use BUY NOW, while others who prefer auctions can still bid normally. It gives players flexibility instead of forcing everyone into the same system.


My memory of the transfer system back in 2018 was a version of this; auction period lasted 3 hours, with a 1 token bid option or a 9 token buy now option. If someone placed a bid then the buy now option was unavailable to everyone. This kind of worked though was deemed to be too slow so the refresh period went from 3 hours to 4 minutes.


The key difference was that you were only competing against players the same level as you, the market was done by driver level as iGP wasn't unified back then. As such the 10 token buy now was reasonable as no auction was likely to go above that. Now you are competing against every player in the game so you are getting near 10 tolens in 1 hour.

The buy now option was removed about 1 year ago to try and stop people moving resources between accounts, so I think it is unlikely to come back. Also, if it came back then it would advantage people at the start of the hour rather than the end, though would be fairer than how it is now - but it might result in all the good drivers being picked up in the first 5 minutes of the auction and then 55 minutes of stagnant market. Personally I could get behind a buy now option at 10-15 tokens being brought back in the style of old auctions.

Overall, I think the fairest thing and way to keep the game moving is the 4 minute refresh period. It has the fewest flaws of all the transfer markets I've played with on this game.
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medal 5368
15 days ago

I still think a 24 hour auction with a 50 token BUY NOW would actually be the best balance.

The 24 hours removes the “last-minute online advantage” and gives everyone a fair chance to participate regardless of time zone or schedule. The 50 token BUY NOW keeps the market fast for players who want an instant deal and are willing to pay for certainty.

Auctions remain for those looking for value, BUY NOW exists for those who want speed.
Both play styles coexist, and the market becomes fairer instead of being decided by who happens to be online in the final seconds.

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medal 5125
15 days ago
Multiplying the length of the window by 24 is not a balance at all. It certainly doesn't remove the last online advantage either. Any window which is longer than someone might reasonably be online for 5-10 mins is going to have that advantage.

As for a 50 token buy now, that is an astronomical price to pay for anything in the game. It's nearly 20 days of racing everyday, and given in 1 hour the token prices are getting up to about 10, in 24 hours it would be ridiculous. There would be no value because the bid would get so high. It is a terrible idea and would be a massively regressive step in the game.

I was vehemently against the removal of buy now when it happened a year ago, and given the reasons, I doubt we will get it back. At 50 tokens it wouldn't be worth having anyway. For the current 1 hour period, a 15-20 token buy now would be fair as around double the price of the usual auction, but the most sensible move and the fairest is to return to what worked very well until it was changed without good reason last week.
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Ok you win.

24 hour auction and 50 tokens BUY NOW

Case closed !
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medal 5554
15 days ago (Last edited by Sicilian Backstabber 15 days ago) Translate
As is, the whole marketplace is deadly stupid and doesn't make any sense for various reasons.

First: Does it offer useful items? Why 50% of staff has one star? Who is so stupid to buy a one-star driver or td? I would be happy to hear the rationale behind this choice. Solution: Show only relevant staff.

Second: Why offers are public? Who said that I can win an auction with a single token offer put when countdown was close to finish visible to anyone? Solution: offers are secret and when auction is over, every player involved will receive an ingame mail showing all players and their related offers sorted by largest offer. That's what an auction should be.

Third: Is it really a problem the duration if it doesn't matter applying 1 and 2? It can even last 6 hours.

Fourth: Do you think Jack will change the marketplace? He promised to take a look at it and meanwhile 4 years are gone...
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medal 5125
15 days ago
Right now there is just a single max. talent driver on the market for an auction that lasts for an hour. How is this an improvement on constant, quick refreshes?
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medal 5368
15 days ago (Last edited by Digital Druid 15 days ago)
That is not for you; however, it is a must for the new players.

Personally, I think good managers make the real difference. The weaker managers are the ones who complain all the time. 
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medal 5018
15 days ago

Digital
That is not for you; however, it is a must for the new players.

Personally, I think good managers make the real difference. The weaker managers are the ones who complain all the time. 



Is this an AI response? Marco is like one of the best and most complete managers I think I’ve seen in the game!


The transfer market has nothing to do with manager skill, and all to do with having the patience and resources to sit around most of the day doing the mundane tasks that Jack for some reason wants to keep changing.
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Someone will always complain.
Mommyyyyy, I don’t like this. Can you change it?
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medal 5018
15 days ago

Digital
Someone will always complain.


Reasonable complaints…


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medal 5368
15 days ago
Ken
Reasonable complaints…

AI response?
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medal 5018
15 days ago

Digital
AI response?


Child?
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Inside every grown man there is a child.
If you know what I mean.
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medal 5554
15 days ago Translate
Digital
Inside every grown man there is a child.
If you know what I mean.


I think you got the achievement. Now stop bringing noise in a serious discussion.
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medal 5368
15 days ago
Herd behavior

Humans tend to follow the crowd instead of thinking independently. When many people support something, others assume it must be correct.
That's EXACTLY what all of you are doing.

Think for a minute and stop rely on simplified narratives
STOP or the game will be so weak that will be ridiculous to play. ZERO challenge.



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